The Rifled Slug edition sets itself apart from the rest of the M3000 line with the addition of this very fancy rifled barrel. Okay guys I asked awhile ago about a Stoeger M3000 and got a lot of Beretta A300 Outlander recommendations. Your link has been automatically embedded. My understanding is that fully rifled slug barrels shooting sabot slugs can attain astounding accuracy for that platform with a suitable scope. They make do, hunting monster corn-fed deer with a shotgun. What is the recoil between a semi-auto slug gun and a pump gun? It holds accuracy to practical standards at the distances at which it was designed to be shot. It should come as no surprise that shotgun slugs of all varieties are typically devastating to deer. I received the new gun a couple of days later. I’ve only hunted with a pump gun and can attest to how stout the recoil is on those. I have had holes touching each other on a target at 100 yards. It’s stiff with a bit of grit, but it breaks fairly cleanly around five pounds or so. If using Foster slugs, stick with the 12. There’s just something soothing about loading up a tube of slugs and then bracing for the horrible shoulder punishment. I placed the barrel on a sandbag, chambered a round, tucked the recoil pad into my shoulder, looked through the scope, and touched off a round. So i bought a Stoeger M3500 Max 4 28 inch semi Shotgun on March 5th. (WTF!! Not gonna lie, the recoil on a 12 ga. Slugger is rough, though I believe the author to be exaggerating. Would not buy again as I'm seeing online a lot of people have this problem. gameking to the vitals works fine and a lot easier to carry then my mossberg 590. Regarding the filthy barrel: this is test fired in the factory and not cleaned. Since its receiver is drilled and tapped for a Weaver-style rail, many shooters, especially turkey hunters, opt to attach all kinds of accessories and optics. Thereâs also a few other tips and tricks there as well Also keep an eye on where the bolt locks into the chamber. And my cousin put a nice 12 gauge slug through a buck at 70 yards. With a few minor changes that should set you back no more than $100 and an hour of your time, you could have yourself a fairly ergonomic hunting gun capable of taking down pretty much anything in North America that lets you get within a 100 yards or so of it. He’s using an AR-height mount with a cantilevered rail above the receiver. The main gripe we had with the tested gun was the trigger: it breaks at essentially the same weight as the whole gun, an excessively heavy 7-3/4 lbs. Gun Review – Remington Model 870 TAC-14 Hardwood, Gun Review: Benelli M2 Tactical ComforTech, Gun Review: Beretta A400 Xplor Unico with Kick-Off. My thoughts precisely. I managed to eek out several sub-three-inch groups which would make this a very deadly weapon when fired at the vital zone of big game at distances nearing 100 yards. Stoeger M3000 Tactical Charging Handle $ 26.75. It dropped to the ground and spun around a couple times. In other words, take the $2000 you’d spend on an M2 and blow it on ammo. AR-15 AK-47 Handgun Precision Rifles Armory Training Competitive Shooting General Outdoors Archery Hometown Industry. Your previous content has been restored. This is the time when you burly Midwesterners will likely question my manhood. OUT OF STOCK (4) STOEGER CONDOR 20/26 O/U. !#2) I asked for a supervisor and after talking with him for a little bit he says we do have them in stock!!! It’s not surprising – small and fast rounds tenderize meat at a significant distance from the wound channel because of high velocity induced shockwave, making it weaker; and then they tend to fragment a lot as well. Never once have I scoped myself and the scope is set pretty far back since I’m only 5’8″ and 165. If using sabot slugs, then by all means go with the 20. With the semi-automatic M3000 Freedom Series Defense shotgun, Stoeger has delivered again, giving the budget-minded shooter a lot shotgun for not a lot of money. Beyond that, the rail is too high above the bore to be functional with the stock drop at comb. FYI: DON’T DO IT!!! Since I can hunt with a rifle, I wouldn’t go out of my way to pull the M3000 R out of the safe unless I knew I’d be facing a very large, very dangerous animal. I dont find the recoil to be much more than my .308. The second type is the sabot, and that’s where I found much better luck. Various people (and Hornady) claim that SST sabot slugs will deliver amazing accuracy well out to 200 yards (more than enough to reliably hit a deer’s vital zone). Pumps aren’t even that bad; in one afternoon I can shoot twenty slugs, a substantial quantity of buckshot, and a fair bit of practice birdshot with absolutely no bruising or discomfort. My 300 BLK takes deer just as well and is a pleasure to plink with! This makes me think the gun is used not new. A few pop up and one of them explains and shows how to do it. That experience makes you think twice about pulling the trigger for a follow-up shot (not to mention clouds your vision with tears). That Stoeger rig is where I was about two steps ago, only I would have put a fixed 4 power scope on it. They sent me a label and I sent it in to Stoeger. In another discussion here on TTaG in the last few months, commenters concluded that this recoil level is nearly identical to shooting a 27 pound rifle with the best available muzzle break chambered in .50 BMG. Description The Stoeger® M3000 Semi-Auto Shotgun uses the reliable Inertia Driven® action to cycle either 2-3/4" or 3" shells without adjustment. And even shooting only 15 rounds, I will have slight bruising of my shoulder the next day and it WILL be sore. It hurts them a lot worse than it hurts you, so update your man card and you’ll be fine. What exactly did he think was going to happen? I’ve taken accurate shots out to 100 yards and never lost an animal. Because of the M3000âs reasonable price-tag, many Stoeger owners choose to take advantage of their aftermarket options. I took it to the range with a few boxes of magnum sabot slugs, ready to get it all sighted in for the upcoming WI gun deer season. They both kicked like a mule out of a fairly light gun and the best accuracy I could get at fifty yards was minute of 1 gallon anti freeze jug with 3 shots. Nothing new here, itâs the standard for tactical duty shotguns for the last 40 years. Any ideas how to fix this or parts that I can replace to fix this issue? About AR15.COM. First thing i did was take the gun apart and cleaned it. I bought a Mossberg 500 cantilever-scoped 3 inch 12 gauge WAY back in the late 80’s . Tyler, If you want some bad recoil tryout a stock Rossi single shot 12ga with a 5 round box of Winchester 1oz 2-3/4″ slugs. Required fields are marked *. OUT OF STOCK (14) Stoeger M3000 Defense Freedom Series 12Ga 3\" 18.5\" Black 7+1. Itâs the perfect choice for waterfowl, wild turkey, or upland game birds. A big slap in the face!!! Necessity being the mother of invention, turning a shotgun into a passable rifle is the natural result. We didn’t have rifled shotguns or sabot slugs back then. This platform digests anything you throw at it. Beretta’s New A400 Xtreme Plus – Could This Be the Ultimate Waterfowl Shotgun? Typical groupings at 50 yards with an unmagnified red dot were on the order of half that size. My Stoeger M3000 was a MACHINE! Just use a ar15 pistol in shotgun only zone in MN. Nothing has ever kicked like that gun. That thing ran well over 200 yards before keeling over. Technoid: So I got a stoeger m3000 12gauge for Christmas as a hunting gun but I'm not really into hunting anymore and I really like trap and I was wondering what it would take to convert it to an all out trap gun (btw it has a 28" barrel. The issue with the M3000R was that shooting this gun was unlike anything else I’ve ever gotten to put my hands on. If you’ve never shot 11 rounds of 12 gauge as fast as you can draw a bead and pull the trigger, you’re missing out. Rock Island Armory VR60 ASR Style Semi Auto Shotgun 12 Gauge 3" Chamber 20" barrel 5 Rounds Gas Operated Aluminum Upper Receiver Polymer Furniture Blakc Stoeger M3000 V. Stoeger M3500 Posted by AngryBeavers on 1/8/13 at 10:34 am 0 0 I don't really need to shoot 3.5" shells but the M3500 has a recoil suppressor in the buttstock from what I have read. This gun could probably do it for real. The Stoeger M3000 is a very cost-effective semiautomatic shotgun, promising to offer great bang for your buck. As such, some of their local governing bodies have deemed rifles unwelcome. As someone who has hunted deer with a shotgun for several years, I can attest to the effectiveness of a shotgun slug on whitetails. This barrel is different, after running the snake thru over 20 times im still left with residue in the barrel that will not come out. Synthetic stocks on some shotguns may have fewer square inches of surface area against your shoulder and can seem to kick harder. Maybe shim the stock or lace on a cheek piece. Upload or insert images from URL. Paint them orange and they’d pass for pumpkins. But don’t count on them to always yield “dead right there” carcasses even with textbook perfect shot placement. Description The Stoeger® M3000 Semi-Auto Shotgun uses the reliable Inertia Driven® action to cycle either 2-3/4" or 3" shells without adjustment. While I am all in favor of another gun in the safe, I don’t see a great advantage over changing out barrels on and 870 or 500 for well under half the price. Stoeger M3000, black on black synthetic. . The trigger is on par with most shotguns I’ve fired. I took the gun out to clean like usual and i noticed couple of problems. By the way my limit shooting that combination is about 15 rounds. I have taken many deer with shotguns here in southern WI before rifles were finally allowed a few years ago, and decided that open sights, 2.75″ foster-style slugs with a smooth bore is the best way to go. The indentions where the choke is was not centered. The movement of the action generates a counter-impulse that dramatically reduces felt recoil. I would love to take my cast reloads out further with a rifled barrel. Got the gun and immediately loved it. Once I cleaned the grease out of the action and applied a lightweight oil, things got much better. The first is referred to as a rifled slug and is really optimized for those shooting non-rifled smoothbore guns who want the ability to launch several hundred grains of lead in the general direction of their target. Notify me of follow-up comments by email. The only time I’m going to shoot any more than one or two slugs out of that thing And by that I’m referring to its punishing recoil. The M3000 also features a streamlined fore-end cap, which has a positive gripping surface and integrated sling swivel stud. Knowing what I know now, I’d have bought 2. I posted pictures for everybody to see. × Anyone want several boxes of unused slug ammo? Wow, so now im about to send this gun in again. Stoeger now offers a version of the M3000 with a 24-inch barrel that would be even better for the sport. Up next for me is the Stoeger M3500. I have recently moved home and acquired a mossy 500 in 12 ga with fully rifled barrel and went 3 shots for 3 deer in last 2 years. stoeger m3500 â the top budget semi-auto shotgun Donât get fooled by the price. Now i got my new shot gun and i have discovered more cosmetic problems. Our readers who live in what politicians and media types deem flyover country — specifically the fields of the Midwest — know a different reality. On that gun, you must pin and shim the barrel to the receiver mount to have any accuracy and it still won’t best the barrel mounted scope. That is somewhat disappointing. The receiver comes with a cantilever scope base for scope attachment and my online research indicates that you can find a base that will mount to the receiver to bring the height above the bore down to a more manageable level. Buy Stoeger M3000 & M3500 Parts Factory replacement gun parts, accessories and gunsmithing service on most manufacturers including Browning, Winchester, FN America, Beretta, Benelli Franchi, Stoeger, Remington, Bushmaster, Marlin, Sig Sauer, HK and many more. You're in the wrong forum, but we're well aware of the problems with Stoeger. In terms of terminal ballistics, the difference will not matter out to 200 yards shooting white-tailed deer. I suspect a Stoeger shotgun is intended for people who are more concerned about a name than value. In general semi-autos exhibit slightly less recoil than their counterparts in pump action. Stoeger M3000 Enhanced Follower $ 29.35. Stoeger M3000 M3K Freedom Series 3-Gun 12ga M3K Black Semi-Auto Shotgun 31855FS (The price reflects the Cash Discount Price. Save my name, email, and website in this browser for the next time I comment. I don’t even live or plan to live in a shotgun-only state; I just love shooting slugs. The weight is around 7 1/2lbs but this gun feels fairly light. (Burris Droptine scope and rings not included. The Savage 220 slug gun with Hornady 250 gr. And bullet drop out to 200 yards is manageable if you set your zero to something like 125 yards. The Stoeger 3000 is a lot of shotgun for the money, but let's start at the beginning. I called Stoeger and they sent me a label. My 3500 is awesome Never had a issue kills green heads and turkey just fine. If, like me, you’d never given consideration to a slug gun before, know that ammunition manufacturers produce two different types of slug loads. You realize this platform is considered the “poor man’s Benelli” right? Stoeger M3000 Tactical Charging Handle, S... $ 36.00. The only other option I would like to know about this pump shotgun is, does it have an optional longer tube for more shots like the 870. Stoeger M3000 Looped Rear Sling Attachment $ 29.85. I called Stoeger and they advised me to send the gun in again. For reliability at a price you'll love, experts and novices agree on Stoeger. As such, I only took the M3000 out on a few occasions, all of them ending in me throwing the gun back in the case after 20 or so rounds whilst cursing. I have brands like browning, mossberg, glock, and benelli and have never had such a dirty barrel due to testing. Knowing that Stoeger P3000 has a recoil reducer is a BIG PLUS in my book. There were many stops along the way and I have 6 or 8 different slug launchers gathering dust in the basement safe to prove it. Every time you break down your gun, you’ll lose your zero. I tested several types of rifled slug ammo and could never get anything better than palm sized groupings at 50 yards. The overall appearance of the gun is all black tactical. Before he could eject that dud and load another slug, that buck managed to get running again (probably on three legs) and ran more than 100 yards to cross a road and disappear on another property. . My last range appearance sighting in my M3000 smoothbore 28″ saw me firing 40ish 3″ magnum slugs (no less than 35) to feel comfortable with a 75 yd. My father-in-law used a 20 gauge shotgun and put a perfect heart and double-lung pass through shot on a white-tailed deer. On the reliability front, I managed to induce several failures to feed and eject early on. I would dare say that 20ga makes more sense for a slug gun, anyway. I posted pictures for everybody to see. I agree that the Stoeger stock design doesn’t favor optics use. There was a heavily modified 1301 Comp and a 1301 Tactical in attendance. One of my favorite slug guns was a browning bps deer/turkey special, and the remington 870 slug model with a monte carlo style stock is also a good choice. Keep in mind that I spend most of my hunting season in a light shirt and occasionally a pair of shorts. The 1301 Tac was a jam-o-matic. The nice thing about the SBE2 is that the upper receiver is also part of the detachable barrel assembly, so you can mount a scope right the receiver, which is preferable to a cantilever mount. Since you’re in Texas, put a low red dot on it, like a Burris Fast Fire, and use it for walking up hogs or for close in hogs over a feeder. My first deer gun was also my all purpose hunting shotgun. Speaking of, there is a HUGE advantage to the Mossberg 500 series by the way: mine came with a special check riser for the butt stock that adds the height you need to get proper cheek weld with a scope on the cantilevered scope mount. × 3-inch, 12-gauge, Inertia Driven® semi-automatic Go ahead, friends. There’s good news though. Heavy rib, heavy trigger and overly heavy guns are part and parcel of the Stoeger â¦ Get a youth model 20 ga. and load it with 3 inch mag bucksshot or slugs. Also the freaking red dot is crooked.(WTF!!!) . I’d still like a slug gun with less recoil though. I only took three shot’s and I was done at two. Clear editor. I would pay for the shipping if you need some one to take the slugs off your hands. The entire path was covered in blood. Usually when i get new gun the barrel is a little dirty and after one run thru with some bore cleaner and a bore snake it is perfectly shiny clean. That said, this is a fairly workable firearm that can be had at a very reasonable price. Branden Branden, I wouldn't do aâ¦ I have shot thousands of rounds of 12 gauge since then, as well as many 7mm mags .300 WM, etc. Its no rifle, but it doesn’t really need to be. The downside is that you have to use a different forend for the slug barrel, and the whole assembly is overpriced, IMO. Since I live in the People’s Republic of Illinois, I’ve been a slug hunter for 40 years and have gone through the evolution of the slug hunting rig from then to now. It looks like a gun, and for that I must applaud Stoeger. 3 Gun Mods I've made the following modifications on the Stoeger M3000: opening the loading port replacing the safety with an oversized safety from ]MOA Precision replacing the magazine tube with a Carbon Arms M3KTube adding a Nordic Components +6 â¦ I took it that weekend to test it out and shot #2 duck load to break it in. Inertia guns basically fire from a fixed breech IIRC, and so exert similar recoil to a pump. It’s all in shooting technique- run a pump regularly enough for some time and it will likely work the same for you. But my 590 works pretty well all the way out to 50-60 yards and I like using cheap slugs… Changing shims using this kit provides a customized sighting plane to fit your unique physical build and shooting style. Gas guns are very different- the softest-shooting shotgun I’ve ever shot was a rented Beretta AL390. It's very hard to believe this 3rd gun is a brand new, this shot gun had so much gun residue in the barrel after running a bore snake thru with good solvent the residue still will not come out. Please do not make the same mistake!!!!! Am i missing something? How would a rail extending forward and a Scout scope work? Oh well. I’ve got the pistol grip stock for it, but I actually prefer the traditional stock after a couple hundred rounds comparison. If you are thinking about buying a Stoeger just slap yourself because thats the quality of shotgun you will get!!! Drop at Heel: 2-1/2″ The stock drop is user-adjustable. Be ready to follow up with a finisher. Rifles generally kill deer much quicker. Necessity being the mother of invention, turning a shotgun into a passable rifle is the natural result. Your shoulder will thank you. ... Search utube Stoeger. Normally a long gun review wouldn’t take me the better part of six months to complete. 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